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		<title>Holding companies Can Be Good Long Term Investments</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post is not about my position on holding companies. The post is about, I do not have bias just because it is a holding company. I have an objective based investment process. And if a holding company fits into that, I will invest and buy its shares. Isn’t that simple enough?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2143" title="1005737_hope_1" src="http://www.tipblog.in/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/1005737_hope_1.jpg" alt="" width="151" height="100" />In writing this post, I am assuming that readers understand what holding companies mean. If not, then you may read a simple primer on <a href="http://neerajmarathe.blogspot.com/2010/07/investing-in-holding-companies.html">holding companies</a> (link to another blog). I do not have any particular bias against or for holding companies. As I have said on many in past, investing should be based on your objectives. These objectives should take into consideration your risk profile and time horizon. This blog is about long term sustainable wealth creation. Does holding companies fit into it? How?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">I try to keep things simple and focused. Style and panacea does not give you sustainable returns. Your sustainable returns comes from substance behind those stocks. All holding companies are not created equal, and hence all cannot be  grouped together as good or bad. As an individual investor, you need to separate holding companies that have substance and fits your portfolio objectives.<span id="more-2140"></span></span></p>
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<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">At one end of the spectrum, there is a school of thought that holding companies do not have any business of their own (or operating business). They do not make money themselves. If they do not make money, then how will their value grow? They have to depend upon their subsidiaries/investments to give returns. If one values such holding companies based on dividends alone, then they will appear overvalued! Or If they are valued based on market price or intrinsic value of subsidiaries, then holding companies are likely to seem depressed.</span></li>
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<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">At other end of the spectrum, there is Berkshire Hathaway, which is also a holding company. Can we say it is, or was, a bad investment?</span></li>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">For my long term buy and hold portfolio, it is imperative that business has focused vision, potential growth, and sustainable dividends. There are holding companies that fit into them. Following are holding companies that I read about and follow.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><strong>Nava Bharat Ventures Limited (NBVENTURE)</strong>: This company has slowly transitioning into holding type of company. Originally, it was manufacturer of ferro silicon and was one of the largest Indian exporter of ferro alloys. It also has sugar production facilities and sugar by-product (rectified spirit and extra neutral alcohol). Over time, this company has started venturing out in power generation and infrastructure projects (e.g. special economic zones and real estate development). It also started a fully owned subsidiary for trading activities (mineral resources and ferro alloys).</span></p>
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<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Operating Cash flow (<span style="color: #008000;">positive</span>,      increasing, <span style="color: #cc0000;">but less than net profit</span>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Debt (<span style="color: #cc0000;">high, higher than cash flow,</span> almost same has net profit)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Dividends (<span style="color: #008000;">yes</span>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Reported Net Profit (<span style="color: #008000;">positive</span>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Margins (<span style="color: #008000;">positive, and increasing</span>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Capital usage (<span style="color: #008000;">good, more than      30%</span>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">My observation is; other than debt      and cash flow, it seems to have good balance sheet. </span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">I      have been following this company for a while now. It seems to keep      venturing into next hot market, first sugar, then power generation, then      real estate, and now material trading. Trading is an activity that has      less investment and tends to increase margins and returns.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">I      like its high dividends, but I am concerned about sustainability over time.      Annual reports consists more of ‘style’ and ‘growth opportunities’. It      lacks substance. I have been on the border line about this company. Not      bad enough to shun it, but not good enough to jump in.</span></li>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><strong>Bajaj Holdings and Investment Ltd (BHIL): </strong>This company was formed after the re-organization or demerger of erstwhile Bajaj Auto Limited. BHIL on a standalone basis is like an investment company. More or less similar to Tata Investments but not exactly same. It appears that BHIL wants to focus on managing capital allocation and development of new businesses. Its investments are in Bajaj Auto Limited (31%), Bajaj Finserve Limited (36%), Maharashtra Scooters Limited (24%), Bajaj Auto Holdings Limited (100% subsidiary). It also has other investments in funds and securities. Under the umbrella of Bajaj Finserv Ltd., the group is entering into new business like insurance, wind farm, and NBFCs.</span></p>
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<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Operating Cash flow (mixed, <span style="color: #cc0000;">volatile,      less than net profit</span>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Debt (<span style="color: #008000;">zero</span>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Dividends (<span style="color: #008000;">yes</span>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Reported Net Profit (<span style="color: #008000;">positive</span>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Margins (<span style="color: #008000;">positive</span>, 90+, nothing      unique, typical for holding company)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Capital usage (<span style="color: #cc0000;">mixed</span>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">The company shows typical      characteristics of a holding company, which is zero debt, high margins,      not great cash flow, etc. </span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Like      Hero Honda, Bajaj Auto was another company that has been on my buy list      for a long time. I have been following this company right through its      demerger. After demerger, I was trying to figure out the direction company      is moving. How it will sustain its dividends?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">For      now, new businesses seems to be part of Bajaj Finserve. I expect that over      time, these businesses will grow and provide sustainable dividends for its      BHIL owners. It is also likely that over time, depending upon size of      businesses, they are likely to be demerged where the capital appreciation      is likely to come from. </span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Suffice      to say, I like BHIL, the only question that remains is what price should I      buy. </span></li>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"> </span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">There are two other holding type of companies that I like and remain invested. These are:</span></p>
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<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><strong><a href="http://www.tipblog.in/analysis/tata-investments-attractively-priced-dividend-stock-to-invest/">Tata Investment Corporation</a></strong> Ltd (link to my earlier analysis)</span></li>
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<li><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Reliance Capital: This is not a typical holding company yet. However, the way it is expanding into various businesses in financial sector, few years from now, I expect that it will transform into a holding type of company. I expect that all the various business that Reliance Capital has (money, insurance, asset management, broking/distribution, etc) will most likely get listed on its own. That&#8217;s where the most capital appreciation likely to come from &#8211; a typical holding company creating businesses. I won&#8217;t be surprised if Reliance Capital enter banking business also.<br />
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><strong>Summary is…</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">These holding companies meet my objective of growing with the business. A true meaning of <strong><a href="http://www.tipblog.in/opinion/what-does-long-term-investing-mean/">long term investing</a></strong> philosophy – growing with the business. So while I wait for management to grow their business (i.e. value increase), they are likely to continue pay me dividends.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"> </span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">This post is not about my position on holding companies. The post is about, I do not have bias just because it is a holding company. I have an objective based investment process. And if a holding company fits into that, I will invest and buy its shares. I do not want to <strong><a href="http://www.tipblog.in/opinion/long-term-investing-dont-create-your-missed-opportunity/">create a missed opportunity</a></strong> just because it is a holding company. Isn&#8217;t that simple? </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">So which holding companies do you like and follow ?</span></p>
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